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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: One Piece Cody... Reply with quote

Hey all,

Anyone up for building some "one piece cody" kites?

I have been working on the template for the last little while or so, with lot's of help from the google translated workshop that KB forum member Tiggr hosted on the Drachen forum.

These are fairly small kites the cell size is about 185 mm ~ 200 mm, framed in 2mm carbon. They have been discussed in passing before in some other threads about cody's but I couldn't find any build info, etc.



Here is a picture of one of Tiggr's prototypes from his site www.colorful-sky.de

This kite is also produced by DesignKites (http://www.designkites.com/designs/index.php?id=7&img=logo_kleuren.jpg)

As far as I know the plan was published by Vlieger magazine some time ago, my plan is based on this original one from Vlieger.

Anyone up for it?

Cheers,
Bill
Update Dec 15 - found this post by kiteguy (that I didn't find before) about this exact
http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5411&highlight=one+piece+codykite..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested.

A few years ago these started taking altitude sprints at UK festivals

Playing with the design has been on my todo list so may as well bump it up Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me, but there is a one piece kite being presented at Ft Worden 2009.

I am presently mulling a one piece W kite.

Back to the Cody now. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golly Bum....

Another Cody project and all this stuff on my current "to-do" plate.

How about this:

I'm interested in following along and building/flying one vicariously through y'all! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am up up for it, just need a parts list and to order them. Have not built one that small for a while and the one piece design would be fun. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't completed one yet either so it will be a learning experience for all of us...

so I think 5 48" 2mm Carbon rods will do it...(there will be a bit of waste)

It will use less than 1 meter of fabric,..

I will try and post the drawing tomorrow, so we can all have a go...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds interesting. I really need to get back to making something else I'll be thrown of this forum Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill
Earlier you said 2mm CF framing....then 3m CF Confused

Which one ??
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry... 2mm (fixed it in the post above)

(this is the size that the folks over at the Drachen forum used.. )

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK I will go get some carbon rod the next day off I get....... That may be a while we have two out on injury so gotta fill in to keep things covered. 2 out of 7 guys. Crying or Very sad Confused Very Happy
Love the work though. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all,

Here is the drawing i have been working on. I haven't built a kite from this yet, so it's still rough.

This an image of the plan, the link below is to a PDF version that is setup to print on 8.5 x 11 paper. With a 100mm x 100mm grid. All dimensions are in mm. Should be able to just print and tape together.



http://www.steadywinds.com/plans/onepiececodyrev2.pdf

the 10mm wide vertical strips create longeron tunnels for the rods.
I believe that all tunnels are to be sewn such that they are on the exterior kite.

I will add some more of the info based on what I have found on the DrachenForum...

the short 5mm wide strip is sewn with it's mate to form a tunnel for the center secion. This should form the box shape of the kite...
Try it with paper first and see if it all makes sense, I made one at the office on 11x17 with coffee stir sticks and tape Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a link to the translated page (via google)

I may have been wrong that all longerons are on the outside skin of the kite.

Have a look at the pics, what do you think?

http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drachenforum.net%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Fid%3D22892%26eintrag%3D120&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this plan for a MicroCody (looks similar) from KPB help?

http://www.vientocero.com/kpb/planos/microcody/microcody.html
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the longerons are on the outside of the bends.
IE outside the kite on the bottom, inside the kite by the wings/top JMHO
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowykite wrote:
Looks like the longerons are on the outside of the bends.
IE outside the kite on the bottom, inside the kite by the wings/top JMHO


Ya that's what I am thinking now as well...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK question time

#1 Can I use wood to frame?
(Suggestion)
#2 I Cut this out twice?
(left side right side)
#3 Can I use scrap and piece it together
(I'm thinking each piece from a different colour)

#4 on the next one How Can I scale this up to 3 foot framing
(standard home depot wooden dowels)
#4a or to use standard 48 inch rods
(with out joining them)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fore Check wrote:
Does this plan for a MicroCody (looks similar) from KPB help?

http://www.vientocero.com/kpb/planos/microcody/microcody.html


It seems similar, I think the main difference is in the height of the middle cell in relation to the other cells. And of course the scalloped edges.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skiandgolf1962 wrote:
OK question time

#1 Can I use wood to frame?
(Suggestion)

I am not sure, I haven't yet built one of these myself, so I am not sure. Might be an interesting experiment
Quote:

#2 I Cut this out twice?
(left side right side)
#3 Can I use scrap and piece it together
(I'm thinking each piece from a different colour)

The original intent is to cut it out of one continuous piece, i.e. just flipping the template over and lining up the edges, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't. I think you would just have to add a seam allowance to the middle edge. The middle edge is marked as 5mm, so that when combined with the mirror image it makes a 10mm strip for the center longeron tunnel.

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#4 on the next one How Can I scale this up to 3 foot framing
(standard home depot wooden dowels)
#4a or to use standard 48 inch rods
(with out joining them)


This I am not sure about, I think you would need a fair bit more reinforcement than what is called for on this kite, But I could be wrong.

I can provide you with the cad drawing if you wanted to experiment with it.

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Hello!

I'm the 'Tiggr' Bill mentioned in the first posting.

At our workhop in the german city of Kassel, we builded the "normal" OPC, and a extended wing version. The extended wing version was designed by Karsten Wolf.



The OPC is very easy to build, even most of the beginners got it ready to fly.

All the longerons are justed fixed with some superglue inside there tunnels. All knots of the different lines and of the bridle are secured with a small amount of superglue too. there are no endcaps or similiar things at the kite.

Where to put the tunnels, on top of the sail, or on bottom, inside the cell or outside, this was a point of discussion for all of us. We build different version, and all of them fly well.

We scaled the plan from the dutch vlieger down for a small amount, to get it to work well with metric length of the carbon rods.

And last but not least, to links to our CAD-files from the workshop:

  • http://www.colorful-sky.de/privat/onepiececody_I.dxf
  • http://www.colorful-sky.de/privat/onepiececody_II.dxf


And you may find some of the images from the workshop-website helpful: http://www.colorful-sky.de/page88.html

Bye
Tiggr (aka Marcus)

PS: Our next workshop starts at februar 2008 in the german town Rodau. We will build the famous SXK, for which Ralf provided us with the plan.
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