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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: One Piece Cody... |
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Hey all,
Anyone up for building some "one piece cody" kites?
I have been working on the template for the last little while or so, with lot's of help from the google translated workshop that KB forum member Tiggr hosted on the Drachen forum.
These are fairly small kites the cell size is about 185 mm ~ 200 mm, framed in 2mm carbon. They have been discussed in passing before in some other threads about cody's but I couldn't find any build info, etc.
Here is a picture of one of Tiggr's prototypes from his site www.colorful-sky.de
This kite is also produced by DesignKites (http://www.designkites.com/designs/index.php?id=7&img=logo_kleuren.jpg)
As far as I know the plan was published by Vlieger magazine some time ago, my plan is based on this original one from Vlieger.
Anyone up for it?
Cheers,
Bill
Update Dec 15 - found this post by kiteguy (that I didn't find before) about this exact
http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5411&highlight=one+piece+codykite.. _________________ Bill Wilson
www.steadywinds.com
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Pumpkin

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 7991 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be interested.
A few years ago these started taking altitude sprints at UK festivals
Playing with the design has been on my todo list so may as well bump it up  _________________ Pete
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kiteguy Kitebuilder of the Year 2005

Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 8805 Location: USA - Kansas, Overland Park - Near Kansas City
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Not me, but there is a one piece kite being presented at Ft Worden 2009.
I am presently mulling a one piece W kite.
Back to the Cody now.  _________________ [
Dave Ellis
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Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 3848 Location: The Montessori School of Kites (near Findlay, OH)
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Golly Bum....
Another Cody project and all this stuff on my current "to-do" plate.
How about this:
I'm interested in following along and building/flying one vicariously through y'all!  _________________ Simon
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pb

Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 330 Location: Portland Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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I am up up for it, just need a parts list and to order them. Have not built one that small for a while and the one piece design would be fun.
PB _________________ Life is short, Let's have fun! |
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I haven't completed one yet either so it will be a learning experience for all of us...
so I think 5 48" 2mm Carbon rods will do it...(there will be a bit of waste)
It will use less than 1 meter of fabric,..
I will try and post the drawing tomorrow, so we can all have a go...
--Bill _________________ Bill Wilson
www.steadywinds.com
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PeterB

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 1241 Location: UK, West Yorkshire, Leeds
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Sounds interesting. I really need to get back to making something else I'll be thrown of this forum  _________________ Regards
Peter
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Pumpkin

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 7991 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bill
Earlier you said 2mm CF framing....then 3m CF
Which one ?? _________________ Pete
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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sorry... 2mm (fixed it in the post above)
(this is the size that the folks over at the Drachen forum used.. )
--Bill _________________ Bill Wilson
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pb

Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 330 Location: Portland Oregon
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: |
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OK I will go get some carbon rod the next day off I get....... That may be a while we have two out on injury so gotta fill in to keep things covered. 2 out of 7 guys.
Love the work though.
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Hello all,
Here is the drawing i have been working on. I haven't built a kite from this yet, so it's still rough.
This an image of the plan, the link below is to a PDF version that is setup to print on 8.5 x 11 paper. With a 100mm x 100mm grid. All dimensions are in mm. Should be able to just print and tape together.
http://www.steadywinds.com/plans/onepiececodyrev2.pdf
the 10mm wide vertical strips create longeron tunnels for the rods.
I believe that all tunnels are to be sewn such that they are on the exterior kite.
I will add some more of the info based on what I have found on the DrachenForum...
the short 5mm wide strip is sewn with it's mate to form a tunnel for the center secion. This should form the box shape of the kite...
Try it with paper first and see if it all makes sense, I made one at the office on 11x17 with coffee stir sticks and tape
Cheers,
Bill[/img] _________________ Bill Wilson
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Pumpkin

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 7991 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Bill _________________ Pete
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a link to the translated page (via google)
I may have been wrong that all longerons are on the outside skin of the kite.
Have a look at the pics, what do you think?
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drachenforum.net%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Fid%3D22892%26eintrag%3D120&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 _________________ Bill Wilson
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Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 3848 Location: The Montessori School of Kites (near Findlay, OH)
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Does this plan for a MicroCody (looks similar) from KPB help?
http://www.vientocero.com/kpb/planos/microcody/microcody.html _________________ Simon
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snowykite

Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 2420 Location: Oxford England
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the longerons are on the outside of the bends.
IE outside the kite on the bottom, inside the kite by the wings/top JMHO _________________ Trevor
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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snowykite wrote: | Looks like the longerons are on the outside of the bends.
IE outside the kite on the bottom, inside the kite by the wings/top JMHO |
Ya that's what I am thinking now as well... _________________ Bill Wilson
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skiandgolf1962

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 333 Location: Canada Ontario Whitby
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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OK question time
#1 Can I use wood to frame?
(Suggestion)
#2 I Cut this out twice?
(left side right side)
#3 Can I use scrap and piece it together
(I'm thinking each piece from a different colour)
#4 on the next one How Can I scale this up to 3 foot framing
(standard home depot wooden dowels)
#4a or to use standard 48 inch rods
(with out joining them) _________________ Have a fun filled day
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Fore Check wrote: | Does this plan for a MicroCody (looks similar) from KPB help?
http://www.vientocero.com/kpb/planos/microcody/microcody.html |
It seems similar, I think the main difference is in the height of the middle cell in relation to the other cells. And of course the scalloped edges. _________________ Bill Wilson
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wdrwilson
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 1696 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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skiandgolf1962 wrote: | OK question time
#1 Can I use wood to frame?
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I am not sure, I haven't yet built one of these myself, so I am not sure. Might be an interesting experiment
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#2 I Cut this out twice?
(left side right side)
#3 Can I use scrap and piece it together
(I'm thinking each piece from a different colour)
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The original intent is to cut it out of one continuous piece, i.e. just flipping the template over and lining up the edges, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't. I think you would just have to add a seam allowance to the middle edge. The middle edge is marked as 5mm, so that when combined with the mirror image it makes a 10mm strip for the center longeron tunnel.
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#4 on the next one How Can I scale this up to 3 foot framing
(standard home depot wooden dowels)
#4a or to use standard 48 inch rods
(with out joining them) |
This I am not sure about, I think you would need a fair bit more reinforcement than what is called for on this kite, But I could be wrong.
I can provide you with the cad drawing if you wanted to experiment with it.
Cheers,
Bill _________________ Bill Wilson
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Tiggr
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hello!
I'm the 'Tiggr' Bill mentioned in the first posting.
At our workhop in the german city of Kassel, we builded the "normal" OPC, and a extended wing version. The extended wing version was designed by Karsten Wolf.
The OPC is very easy to build, even most of the beginners got it ready to fly.
All the longerons are justed fixed with some superglue inside there tunnels. All knots of the different lines and of the bridle are secured with a small amount of superglue too. there are no endcaps or similiar things at the kite.
Where to put the tunnels, on top of the sail, or on bottom, inside the cell or outside, this was a point of discussion for all of us. We build different version, and all of them fly well.
We scaled the plan from the dutch vlieger down for a small amount, to get it to work well with metric length of the carbon rods.
And last but not least, to links to our CAD-files from the workshop:
- http://www.colorful-sky.de/privat/onepiececody_I.dxf
- http://www.colorful-sky.de/privat/onepiececody_II.dxf
And you may find some of the images from the workshop-website helpful: http://www.colorful-sky.de/page88.html
Bye
Tiggr (aka Marcus)
PS: Our next workshop starts at februar 2008 in the german town Rodau. We will build the famous SXK, for which Ralf provided us with the plan. _________________
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