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KiteSquid
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Design_Master Paints & Kites Reply with quote

I dont like the opacity of Design Master on kites, but I LOVE what Scott Hampton does with it. One of my isperations for wanting to dye my own fabrics.

Design Master has a LOT of Aceitone in it, so be carefull.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Design Master works great on tyvek! I experimented with the paints by crumpling the precut pieces of a diamond arch. I sprayed the paint from the top to catch any surfaces that were projecting out. Then, I rotated the pieces 180 degrees around and sprayed with a contrasting color. When it was dry, I flattened the pieces by stacking them and placing a heavy box on top. They are absolutely flat but look 3-D. What a neat effect. The only drawback to using the Design Master is the smell. It does take a little while for it to go away.

Just thought I would throw my two cents worth in.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is pretty much what I did on this fighter kite, knot{ty}. After it was dry I ironed it flat.

The Design Master paint dries rather quickly. I paint outside where there is plenty of venilation. By the time I get back downstairs to my sewing room it is ready to put through the sewing machine.

I like the way that the Design Master paints let the light shine through, and it is very easy to mix colors.


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knotronda
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband just walked by as I was looking at your picture of the fighter and his comment was "It looks like a rock!"

I have also played around with folding the tyvek in patterns such as a collapsible fan. This was another great effect but was almost too structured.

I too like the way the light shines through the Design Master. Thanks for mentioning about painting outside. Just in case someone who is inexperienced in spraying paints happens by, I would want them to know about being safe in the application of any spray product. This also includes any spray adhesives. Be safe. Protect your brain. We loose enough brain cells through age that we don't have to help the process along.

Anyway, once again dinner is ready and I need to go. Talk to you soon.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "rock" was the effect that I was after. Sort of like a memorial stone in rememberance for the person in whose memory I had made the kite.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll let my husband know that you were trying to make it look like a rock. His latest comment about me being on line before dinner is that from now on I'm going to get a frozen dinner. That way I can heat it up when I get off the computer instead of having to reheat a perfectly good dinner that got cold. Boy, I had better behave myself. Otherwise, I'm going to have to start cooking my own dinner. (hahahaha)

Anyway, nice job on the memorial kite.

Time for dessert.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotten good effects by rubbing Tyvek with a sponge or paper towel lightly loaded with Acrylic paint. Wipe off excess with a damp rag. Looks like stone or marble up close, and can simulate an airbrushed fade from a distance.

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knotronda
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Here is my list of what I used to paint/decorate a rokkaku I made as a gift for a friend. But, first, here is the story of how the kite came to be. The fish is an enlargement of a tatto she had just above her wrist. I tricked her into letting my husband take a digital shot of it and then had him print a pic for her. She had no idea I was doing a kite also.

I used glass stain paints, Marks-A-Lot permanent markers, artist's acrylic paints (thinned), laytex house paint, silver leaf, gold leaf, and whiteout. I missed competing with it at Long Beach, WA because I raced out of town and left it behind. But, I was able to fly it in a mass ascension and during some free time. Unfortunately, when I returned the kite to the owner, she left it in her office for a few days. One night the wall heater came on. (I think you know where I am going with this story. . . ) Anyway, the heater came on and melted a hole in the kite. This was not a total tragedy. The hole was about one inch outside of the fish and I will be able to cut the fish out and attach it to a new sail. Wow, what a bad thing to happen to a pretty fish but at least it was not a total loss.

Anyway, yes your comment about using thin layers of paint and utilizing the beauty of the random stranding of the tyvek is another way to appreciate how beautiful 'plastic' can be.

I will try to post a few pics in my photo gallery. I haven't done this before so hopefully I won't muck up the works. Wish me luck. I'm going to try right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Design Master paints Reply with quote

ronda I painted an aisian deamon on white Ripstop using the DM paint . did not spray it however . I put A small amount in a little paper cup and applied the paint with artist brushes .different style brushes provide various effects. give it a try.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,

When my husband was building his second kite, he did a lot of investigating on what to use to paint his kite fabric before he sewed the pieces together. This was one idea he came across but didn't use. I just have not played with the idea yet but hope to soon. (Someday?!?!?!)

Got any pics of your results?

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