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Dying Rip stop nylon
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Genki w/ horses Reply with quote

THose young people did a great deal of work making the kite. susan lennon is a great artist and patrick Callahan is a good craftsman . they earned the wood.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was Patrick Callahan (Paul Dugard's step-son) that worked with Susan Lennon on this project.

It flew VERY well I might add....

Also the Terry Lee saw the kite at the Smithsonian Kite Festival and requested that it be put in the Vissions of Lews and Clark display. Terry took it home on the airplane.... Cool

GREAT JOB SUSAN AND PATRICK!!!!!!!!!

BTW I called Susan and she decided to NOT join the fourms as she spends her entire day in front of a PC and perfers not to look at one at home. I miss her inputs already Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve noted about the dyed Ripstop on the beautiful Horse Genki:
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However, the dye made the Ripstop nylon kind of crinkly like cre paper and it was difficult to sew without getting puckers in the seams.


Sam Huston demonstrated how to successfully iron Ripstop in his adhesive aplique class. You need a low heat and a 1/16th inch thick sheet of some nylon material. With the nylon sheet, the Ripstop came out great and super smooth. I also tried ironing a piece of Ripstop with the same iron and no sheet, and the Ripstop turned into a little puckered ball of plastic. I would like to say that it was a deliberate experiment, but in actuality I was just tired and got a bit stoopid. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,

I dont think it was the dyes that made it crinkley, it was the steaming process that did it...


Dave,

I think that Sam uses Polyester (Mylar) sheet.

But why isnt he here to talk about it????

Sombody who knows him bettter that I do should call him and get him excited about these forums!!!!!!!


BTW I have snugly wrapped badly creased nylon fabric around a broom handle and left it for a day or two and the creases come right out....


if they do not come out the first time just wrap a little tighter and wait a little longer..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe steaming process can put texture in the fabric, but not necessarily. I have an acid dyed, steam set, Ripstop rokaku, that came out just fine.

The puckering may have something to do with the actual fabric, how tight you wrap for steaming, whether you have backing paper on the front and back of your fabric (or perhaps the type of paper), your altitude (water boils hotter at sea level), whether the steam process stays dry (water can get into the steaming roll and mess things up, but usually the colors run as well), or it could be something else. Steaming can be an art. Diane has gone from an 80% success rate, to pretty much 100% success. Though I watch and help with the process I don't see what she is doing differently, but apparently, on some level, she does.

I think Sam Huston is too excited about going to Australia at the moment to sign on here (he should be on his way about now). I'll try to get him on here when he gets back.

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