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Progcraft
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Knotless bungee tensioners Reply with quote

Came across this. He talk specifically about Rev kites, but the idea can be applied any where. It's a neat idea. Would be good to use on trick kite wing tips too.

http://www.thedurants.net/kites/quad/no.knots/


(yes, there really is a knot, but it's hidden)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREAT SYSTEM!!!!!!!

Gotta modify it tho, Just to make it mine Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: Knotless bungee tensioners Reply with quote

Progcraft wrote:
Came across this. He talk specifically about Rev kites, but the idea can be applied any where. It's a neat idea. Would be good to use on trick kite wing tips too.

http://www.thedurants.net/kites/quad/no.knots/


(yes, there really is a knot, but it's hidden)

P.


I hope that all have recognized the work of our very own forum member, Woodpekr, aka Rich Durant.
Well done Rich.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes RICH...

GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew I had seen that name somewhere before. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Shucks, thanks guys.

I've been thinking of changing it to make it a bit simpler. As you can see I drill a single hole in the cap where the end of the spar sits. I then pull the bungee through that hole.

I've been toying with the idea of drilling two holes, the second hole at the top of the triangular aperture at the top of the end cap.
Then, without making a loop, simply tie a knot in the bungee and thread it through the spar chamber as before.
Now you have the end cap with a single length of bungee coming out of the triangular aperture.
Then thread the bungee through what ever holes there are in the sail, thread it through the (new, second) hole in the top of the aperture (from the top), tie a knot, and trim it close. The knot will be visible, but it shouldn't be snagging your lines since it's tucked into the aperture.
This would make it easier to tighten a bungee if it stretches out, and for the weight conscious, uses half the bungee cord. My concern is that the second hole will weaken the cap.
So, when I get the time, I'll try this out and update my no knots page. If any of you try this let us know how it works out.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich,

It sounds like a good solution as long as you keep the holes centerd and as small as possiable.

KEEP THINKING and SHARING!!!!!!!!!

I love these forums!!!!!!!

I now have something to try on my next kite (possiably my MKS retreat kite or on-line della porta)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't ed shenk use heat to smooth the dacron sheath and adhesive to seal the two elastic ends together thereby making it truly "no knot" on his kites?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

revflyer wrote:
Doesn't ed shenk use heat to smooth the dacron sheath and adhesive to seal the two elastic ends together thereby making it truly "no knot" on his kites?


yes he does and swears he never had one break free..... but I have my doubts!

and woodpekr... that is a great modification to that fitting! Although, it looks like the fitting should be a little longer to accomodate the needed space for the knot. I forwarded this to the old man and he will surely have his own version of a longer machined end cap with the internal hole predrilled.

Maybe we will call it the "pecker fitting" Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about 'Pecker Cap'? Then you can have small, medium and large Pecker caps. Shocked Shocked

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