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Progcraft · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:22 am Post subject:

Ah good. I actually needed that Barrel Knot last night. I added another couple hundred feet to my 80 lbs spool of line.

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Progcraft · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: Re: knots in line

Kitesquid · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:36 am Post subject:

If you splice hollow core braided polyester line, you must splice in both directions....
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Progcraft · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:09 am Post subject:

Kitesquid · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:02 am Post subject:

This works for hollow core braided line. if your line has a core it might not work as you probaly will not be able to spread the braid enough.

mark both lines about 8" or what ever you think will take the load, from the end.

If you are using a loop turner type device or just a looped pice of wire, go into line one about double or more the distance you chose, 8" in my example and run the tool insde the brade and come out at the 8" mark.

bunch the line up on the tool a little to make the inside a little larger than the normal diamater of the line.

Pass line 2 thru the tool.

pull line 2 thru line 1 and bring the end out. do not let it go back in yet.

Do the same on line 2 running line 1 inside of line 2.

make sure that the pass in points are both together.

I like to make a few stitches to lock them in refrence to eachother.

pull the lines so that the tag ends go inside the lines.

you are done, or you can make some stitches to lock the whole thing tight.

you have now made a double chinese finger cuff lock down.

Or you could just tie a barrell knot, but the splice described above does not increase the diamater of the line that much, but it does make it stiffer...

Or you can just buy a longer piece of line.
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P.S. The wind is like the air, only pushier.

Progcraft · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:07 am Post subject:

Ahhh, I think I understand. I will give that a try tonight and see. I like the idea of adding a couple stitchs to secure it.

Thanks Squid.
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Kitesquid · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:10 am Post subject:

No Problem....

It is more cost effective than buying new line.

I try not to splice my line as it is a potential weak point and I dont like loosing kites to the winds.

but sometimes it is unavoidable.
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P.S. The wind is like the air, only pushier.

wdrwilson · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:20 am Post subject:

You could also lock the braid in place and then add a drop of super thin CA Glue (Lee Valley, Hot Stuff) to lock it down tight. This the technique Bill Painter uses for his knotless loops on NPW's.

Cheers,
Bill

Kitesquid · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:51 am Post subject:

I am not a fan of cyanoacrylate (CA) because it has poor shock load strength.

New Thread on CA started.....
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imagin · Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 103 Location: NB Canada

I'm ready to bridle up my Pilot. With smaller kites I've been in the habit of tying an overhand knot at the end of bridle and using a lark's head to connect to it with my flying line. What kind of knot's do you guys use at this connecting point?

Also, I'm gathering together my sets of three lines from each keel and connecting to small rings, trying to keep them so I can easily make adjustments. Any tips here? When I did my plastic version awhile back, I connected a heavy dacron line through the three small rings to gather them together to connect to flying line.

The Pilot is 50 sq ft.

Marion
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