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rx8doc
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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To me the simple solution is two large plastic garbage pails http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=92393-315-832/2894&lpage=none . Placed mouth to mouth. some wood dowels to suspend the fabric. Screws to hold the dowels from outside. Some dryer vent hose to the bottom of the garbage pail. The other end to a steam device. a few holes and corks in the top of the second pail to provide increased pressure and a cheap saftey release. You could even use duct tape to hold them together. when the pressure is too high it will sep at that seam.
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KiteSquid Master Kite Builder


Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 2953 Location: USA Virginia King George
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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but will the heat from the steam melt the pails into some kind of modern art...
I will look into garbage cans to see what plastic they are made of.... some can handle 212 F and some can't.
I do like the idea of using trash cans etc as they are inexpensive compared to plywood, but the volume will be much less.
If anbody has a plastic trash can at home, can they look at the recycleing codes and let me know the nubers/letters on them and the manufacturer? This will tell me the type of plastic it is made from and therefore the tempature I can expect to be able to take it too..
a quick run down of SOME plastics
ABS is only good to 200
Polyester is good to 157 to 500 depending on the forumula...
Polypropylene is good to 225 (I hope the trash cans are made of this)
Polyimide is good ot 500
Silicone is good to 500 but it is so flexable that I dont think the trash cans are made of this..
But as the trash cans are only $10 each I could do a $20 experment..... _________________ VR/
KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
P.S. Yet another post by the Squid..... Doesent he ever shut up???
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rx8doc
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Well your irght it is just a 20.00 experiment. Plus...the pressure of the steam coinsides with the heat and should not deform the plastic too much. You could use duct tape to reinforce the trash can. An old professional garmet steamer may be available on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43514&item=4369407816&rd=1
. Now if I just new how to dye fabrics i could play catch up with you. Plus I could use some artistic skill.
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woodpekr

Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 271 Location: USA Oregon Portland
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: |
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rx8doc wrote: | An old professional garmet steamer may be available on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43514&item=4369407816&rd=1
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Squid,
Instead of building a chamber, would a garment steamer allow you to set your dyes? Of course you would have to be careful to get good coverage, but it certianly looks like it meets your portability criteria. _________________ Rich Durant
Portland, Oregon
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KiteSquid Master Kite Builder


Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 2953 Location: USA Virginia King George
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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The personal garment steamers dont put out enough steam...
I did some yardage last night and went thru aobout 3 gallons of water on a coleman stove that puts out IIRC 11,500 BTU's
Now the steaming cabinet from some older drycleaners or the back room of high end department stores.... MIGHT work.. but still not enough energy transfer _________________ VR/
KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
P.S. Yet another post by the Squid..... Doesent he ever shut up???
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dpb Master Kite Builder


Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 384 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Harold, are you still intending to have a preasurized chamber, or is it going to be an unpreasurized steam chamber?
Dave _________________ Cherry Blossoms fall like rain,
A lively kite steals the sky,
Paradise in a moment. |
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KiteSquid Master Kite Builder


Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 2953 Location: USA Virginia King George
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have always inteneded to have a chamber at atsmopheric pressure as a boiler or pressure chamber has to be designed by an engineer, weleded by a Certified welder and tested by a certified tech.
All costing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
so to do it on the cheep it will have to be at atmospheric pressure.
So my colors will not be a vibrant as they could be but my house will stay on the foundation!!!!!! exploding boilers cause LOTS of damage!!!!!!!! _________________ VR/
KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
P.S. Yet another post by the Squid..... Doesent he ever shut up???
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