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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Airbrush Reply with quote

G'day.
Any airbrushers out there?
I've recently made attempts to try airbrushing again. I pulled out my old Paasch VL the other day and got some Createx airbrush fabric paint but I soon realized that my airbrush is haveing problems beyond my ability to fix. I'm pretty sure I put it away the last time (about 2 years ago) without a proper cleaning. It just does not spray well anymore.
So, I'm going to get a new one. I'm looking at getting the Badger 360 Universal. I figure why not. I just bought myself a new 2 gallon, 1.5 HP, oil-less compressor yesterday, so I may as well have a good brush to go with it. And if I can get to be a decent painter, then I can do lot's of neat things to kites.

Has anyone used the Badger 360 Universal airbrush? Do you have anything to say about it?
What airbrush do you use? And which fabric paints do you like to use with it?

Cheers,
P.

ps. Tower Hobbies sells the Badger 360 for $90!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has always worked well, especially after I fixed a separate pressure regulator inline for it, to keep the airbrush line around 25 max, IIRC.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you find something that works on Ripstop, let me know!

Squid colors may be the answer. The whole "steam to set" thing is slowing me down though.

Trying to find something to load an airbrush with was what started the whole blo-pen thing. I keep wondering about some kind of ink, with an alchohol to carry it past the coatings and into the fibers.

I have limited experience with using an airbrush. Did some motorcycle paint jobs years ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBGB wrote:
When you find something that works on <a href="http://www.kitebuilder.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_108">Ripstop</a>, let me know!

Squid colors may be the answer. The whole "steam to set" thing is slowing me down though.

Trying to find something to load an airbrush with was what started the whole blo-pen thing. I keep wondering about some kind of ink, with an alchohol to carry it past the coatings and into the fibers.

I have limited experience with using an airbrush. Did some motorcycle paint jobs years ago.


So far I've been likeing the Createx paint. I haven't made anything into a kite yet, but the paint seems to set into in the fabric nicley. I'm useing the white .70 oz stuff from Steve. (that you can't get anymore


I'm going to have a shower with a piainted and set piece just to see what happens. I'll also make a painted pocket sled and fly it whenever I go out (small and easy). I'm still just messing around with it I'll let you know if it works out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBGB wrote:
When you find something that works on Rip stop, let me know!


I remember somewhere seeing were sombody was using automotive paints and an airbrush to put art on rip stop

I'll look around for the refrence
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KiteSquid wrote:
EBGB wrote:
When you find something that works on Rip stop, let me know!


I remember somewhere seeing were sombody was using automotive paints and an airbrush to put art on rip stop

I'll look around for the refrence


I think Don Mock was doing that for awhile... but I think he has switched to Acrylics...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My shower test of the Createx paint had good results.
The un-set part cracked a lot when I balled up the fabric and wrinkled and rubbed it. It also faded somewhat.
The part that was heat-set held up very well to the water, heat, wrinkeling, scrubbing, and rubbing (and zest soap). I gave the paint and fabric a pretty good work out. There was a very slight bit of cracking though so I'm going to use a hotter iron for the next test. I only got the fabric up to 270 degrees F when I heat set this first panel.

Also, I've found out that Parma's liquid FasMask works quite well on Ripstop nylon Smile Smile I'm happy about that. Next is try some frisket flim though I think that will work just fine.
I also bought some retarder for the Createx paint in hopes that my airbrush can do a better job with this paint.

Cheers,
P.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It showed up HERE at beleive it or not Kitebuilder forums.

I found it on the web a long while back by sombody else too... but I cant find it now
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don Mock was using indelible marker ink, bought by the pint. The company packaging though went out of business and he had to stop.

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