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KiteSquid
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you think about turning it 90 degees to the tread path so the thread does not come into contact with the Velcro?

it is a GREAT invention and I may build one.

How does it do for lubing thread while winding a bobbin??? Do you have to slow down to wind the bobbin???
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to sew through some adhesive this weekend so I built the little thread oiler. Works pretty well, almost can't tell it's oiled, but I didn't have any of the usual gum-ups so I think it's just enough.

I thought of turning it but I think the velcro helps holding the thread in place as it passes over the terry cloth. I think this is the same reason the hook side is on the bottom and not the top... just my thoughts.. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking more on the overall tension of the thread standpoint.

but the lubed theread will slip thru the tension discs and other parts of the machine easyer than non-lubed thread.

Also when winding bobbins the thread moves a lot faster thru the luber than when sewing.

Just some thoughts...

I guess I should build one and do some sewing...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome Don, great idea and thanks for sharing it. I'll be making one ASAP Very Happy

FOLLOW UP:
Made one of these for my machine, took all of 5 minutes. Works like a charm - thanks again Don!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the oilers I looked at the store, they all had a coil spring at 90 degrees to the thread path on the entrance and exit to keep the thread tracking through the center. The Velcro on mine was to fulfill the same purpose - a thread guide. The Velcro doesn't seem to "grab" the thread like I was affraid it would.

On my machine, I didn't need to adjust the tension at all. The oiler added a little friction, but that seems to have been compensated for by the reduced friction in the tension disks. Your mileage may vary...

I haven't tried winding bobbins through mine yet - haven't needed to.
I'd think you'd want a lot less oil on your bobbin thread then your top thread though. It's path through the machine is a lot shorter, the thread takes a lot less abuse, and an accumulation of excess oil in the bobbin area is likely to cause problems in the long term.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBGB wrote:

On my machine, I didn't need to adjust the tension at all. The oiler added a little friction, but that seems to have been compensated for by the reduced friction in the tension disks. Your mileage may vary...

I just built an entire kite with the oiler (per Don's specs) installed, and haven't noted any difference in tension. I also wound a couple of bobbins with the oiler in the thread path, and it didn't seem to cause any issues, but I will of course keep an eye on it.

What I like about this system is that it only lightly coats the thread as it passes between the velcro pieces, rather than laying down a heavy coat.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback!!!!!

I will build one and try it the next time I use unbonded thread!!!!


To cool!!!!!!!!

Now to find some flannel.....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey EBGB (or anyone)
Do you have a picture of this thread oiler? I'm haveing a hard time visualizing it and I need to make one now. I'm useing a lot of a double-sided tape like material and it's giveing my lots of problems with thread breakage and needle gumming.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As seen on page 1
http://home.comcast.net/~dostey2/Tread_Oiler/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhartzel wrote:
As seen on page 1
http://home.comcast.net/~dostey2/Tread_Oiler/


Embarassed I had to go back and look again, then look again. I finally found what your referring to Embarassed Embarassed
Thanks Mark.

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