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KiteSquid
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes sense.... Especially if there is a small dimple in the pallete knife to keep it alligned with the hot cutter...

I assume the Pallete knife is Stainless Steel too....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Palette Knife Reply with quote

The Kite Studio Has a knife that Harold has just described . Steve jump in here and expound on the features!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Palette Knife Reply with quote

CJQ wrote:
The Kite Studio Has a knife that Harold has just described . Steve jump in here and expound on the features!!!

CLIFF



Ahhh.. the "Shockula"! A local customer of mine named Tony Schock first showed me this little gadget. It is basically a pointed artist Pallet Knife. Take a center puch and dimple the tip. Use the dimple to hold the tip of a pencil soldering iron with the fabric in between. With practice you can relief cut with a heat sealed edge. Takes alot of practice though... and definitly slower than a cold cut with a sharp pair of scissors.

Tony used these tools mostly for hot relief cutting 200 Denier Banner Fabric.... fabric that frays when cold cut. For coated Ripstop, I'd probably advise practicing with a scissor. Ive seen some very old highly appliqued kites that were cold cut and still in tack after many years and hours in the wind....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonG wrote:
Let's say you have 4 layers of fabric, and you want to cut way the top layer. How do you get the thin sheet of metal between layers one and 2? Assuming of course that all 4 layers have been stitched together (as they usually would) before you start cutting away. The only way I've ever figured is to start the cut with scissors, then insert a small shield of metal between the layers and start hot cutting, moving the shield around with the hot cutter. Seems really awkward, and would require both hands with none left to hold the fabric.


Hey Ron.... if you can plan ahead..... put a one inch slice in the fabric that you are relief cutting BEFORE you sew them together!

Jon Burkhardt puts a pin in between the layers of cloth before he sews them... the head of the pin creatwes a little "bump" that helps you poke threw with the tip of a scissor..... just dont end up with a pin permanently inside the kite!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevef wrote:

Jon Burkhardt puts a pin in between the layers of cloth before he sews them... the head of the pin creatwes a little "bump" that helps you poke threw with the tip of a scissor..... just dont end up with a pin permanently inside the kite!

Yep, I could see where that would help. I've gotten pretty good at using a straight pin to pry up and get a little tear started in the top layer of fabric, enough to get the tip of the scissors into.

The hot cut applique stills sounds like more work than it's probably worth for kites, since as you point out the coatings of modern Ripstop nylon and polyester make them very stable when cold cut.
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