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Tony
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:56 pm Post subject: What are Seconds? |
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What is a second? and Why does North Cloth classify their fabrics as A, B, C, and D?  |
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stevef
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:33 pm Post subject: Seconds? |
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Most cloth vendors classify their fabric as either a 'first' or a 'second'. First quality means the fabric is 99% perfect, meaning almost no cosmetic flaws at all. North Cloth goes one step further and classifies their fabric in four grades: A, B, C, and D.
In a nutshell. grade A is basically perfect..... and D is "least" perfect. However, on a roll of any grade it is quite possible that you will see NO flaws at all..... Your chances of seeing a flaw are just increased the further down the alphabet you go. In all cases, if there is a flaw, it is "cosmetic" only - meaning creases, stains, varying dye, or even a smashed fly.
All cloth is usable and most often you can cut around a blemish if present. We sell ALOT of seconds and I can count on my left hand the number of times fabric has been returned. You'd be surprised at how many kites are manufactured with second quality fabrics...
~Steve
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kiteguy
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: Ripstop seconds |
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I thought that all Ripstop nylon was seconds quality. At seconds as graded by the sail makers. When the roll gets to small for a sail maker they get rid of it as seconds. It is still fine, and a lot of it for the kitemaker.
Of course when a fly gets squashed it becomes second quality, but it should be great for my kite because I want it to "fly' anyway! |
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stevef
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Ripstop seconds |
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| kiteguy wrote: | I thought that all Ripstop nylon was seconds quality. At seconds as graded by the sail makers. When the roll gets to small for a sail maker they get rid of it as seconds. It is still fine, and a lot of it for the kitemaker.
Of course when a fly gets squashed it becomes second quality, but it should be great for my kite because I want it to "fly' anyway! |
lol.... never thought of that!
Yes you are right in the small rolls as seconds - that is usually true. However, I often get 300 yard rolls... 1200 yards last week!
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kiteguy
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:35 pm Post subject: Cheap fabric |
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Currently I am cutting up balloon Ripstop to store. I got a hot air balloon that was being cast aside as it was no longer airworthy. I got a vanload of material, but it is all blue. So will need to make a bunch of blue things.
This was free material, but not really. I had to drive 550 miles round trip, pay for motel, and meals, and entertainment for my wife who went along.
That is cheaper than the last trip I went on to buy material. We stopped by the Kite Studio on a trip back east. While I browsed the shelves there my wife went next door and found a $150.00 fairy statue! That helped her overlook the big inventory list I accumulated at the Kite Studio.  [/img] |
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KiteSquid
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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If I took a tour of th e Kite Studio warehouse, it would cost me THOUSANDS!!!!!
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stevef
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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If I took a tour of th e Kite Studio warehouse, it would cost me THOUSANDS!!!!!
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ummm...
5555 Hamilton Boulevard
Wescosville, PA
Up the PA Northeast Extention, off at 309 south.... Hang a right onto Hamilton Boulevard, go through three lights. I am .70 mile past the third light on the right.
I'll be here today till 7.
cya soon
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Steve D
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Heck, it'd probably cost me a wife!!!
Hmmmmmm............nahhh, better not... |
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stevef
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I wont go there Brother Steve... my girlfriend watches this board!
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Steve D
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Well, when you get right down to it, I wouldn't trade her. Might want to sometimes.....but wouldn't.
OK, we're getting way off topic - back to your regularly scheduled programming.......... |
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