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pawsable



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Kite_Line 101 Reply with quote

Is there an article or website that explains "everything you ever wanted to know about Kite Line"?

i.e., the different types, what weight to use for size of kite, what to use for Bridle Line, etc.

I looked at the list of tech sheets and questions posted here but did not find anything that explains Kite Line for us newbies. Confused

I'm gonna seach on google but thought someone might know where to find the info easily. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why Kitesquid should post a website.
He could start with a single page, and add to it gradually, a bit here and there. He could even footnote the tomes in his huge library as references and make a bibliography. 15 minutes a day would do it. Wink

He's just stubborn.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Line tech. Reply with quote

Come-on Squid , dont be stubborn !!!

Help us.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Kite_Line 101 Reply with quote

pawsable wrote:
Is there an article or website that explains "everything you ever wanted to know aboutKite Line"?


I can only suggest this:
Start here: http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=662&highlight=polypropylene+choice#662

Try this for figuring out which strength to use:
http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=648&highlight=two+general+formulas#648

Here's a bit on Spectra:
http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4195&highlight=lines+impregnated#4195

Get technical here:
http://www.thefoolonthehill.co.uk/kitelift.html

And of course:
http://www.kitebuilder.com/techsheets/linetech.jpg

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Line tech. Reply with quote

Stan wrote:
He's just stubborn.



CJQ wrote:
Come-on Squid , dont be stubborn !!!

Help us.


You guys are KILLING me here...............

It sounds like a home buisness...in just 15 minutes a day you can have a web site that will be the all knowing, all seeing tome for the kite flying masses....

Where is the Stubborn Emotocon when I need one???????? Question


BTW I normaly use a Spectra cored Polyester line on most of my kites...

On my 8' x 12' Thomas Jefferson Edo I used 50# Polyester due to cost.

On Battle Rokkakus I use cut battle line...

On indoor kites I use 50 or 90# Spectra

There is just too much data to post here
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information and the links. I read everthing (except the technical stuff-over my head).

I also got out the books I bought and reread the sections about line.

For my Della Porta:

3' x 4' = 12 sq ft x 3 = 36

If I understand correctly, and I round this up and use 50lb line I should be OK? Question Think
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pawsable wrote:
Thanks for the information and the links. I read everthing (except the technical stuff-over my head).

I also got out the books I bought and reread the sections about line.

For my Della Porta:

3' x 4' = 12 sq ft x 3 = 36

If I understand correctly, and I round this up and use 50lb line I should be OK? Question Think


That should work. On my Della Poata I use 80 lb, and sometimes 100 lb line - because I can. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bridled my DP with 80 lb. I fly it on 80 lb too. No problems yet. I flown it up to about 18 mph.

My train of 5 mini DP's has more pull then my full size one and I fly the train on 80 lb as well. (but not as strong of wind).

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Exclamation

I do most of my flying on the pennisula at Longbeach, WA. The afternoon winds get pretty strong. I think I'll leave the 110lb bridle for now and try different weights for flying to see what I like best.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: What size fly line Reply with quote

Hi pawsable , I have an othor factor in the equasion when selecting the line strength . I use the heavest line the kite will support for the wind present . I do not use gloves unless its an extreemly large kite or whin I know my fingers will be subjected to burn/cut danger. 100 # or 125 # line is easier on my fingers than say 50 # stuff. I like the black line steve sells called Black Death. It has a core.

Just thought I'd pass this on.


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