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juggler7
Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 6 Location: South west UK
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject: How to get the broken bit out? |
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Dear All,
I had a spar break at the join; 14mm o.d. using a 10mm internal sleeve, all Carbon.
Following a 'heavy landing'. one of the joins is now broken. I got out the tail end with long nosed pliers.
My question is this: is there any way more effective than drilling to get out the broken bit that is currently glued in there, so I can replace the damaged piece?
Your help and guidance are, as ever. greatly appreciatded.
Best regards
Andy |
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Dorsal Kite Builder II


Joined: 05 Oct 2003 Posts: 302 Location: Tracy California - 50 miles east of San Francisco
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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If the joint had been glued with SuperGlue (most are) you could try soaking the end of the rod in acetone to dissolve the glue. After a while, you may be able to pull the broken piece out.
That has worked about half of the time for me, and always takes at least an hour. I usually just drill the old piece out. _________________ "The wind is the perfect reminder of God.
The only way we can prove it exists is by observing the things it affects. "
Dennis
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Spence602

Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 352 Location: USA TX Houston
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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For lack of better words, CA (superglue) has a low 'shear' point. What I mean is that when a sudden sharp force is applied, it will break the bond.
You didn't say how long the 14mm rod was, but if the ID is 10mm, get a 9mm (or 1/2") piece of rod, pipe, or something stiff (and longer than the tube). Feed it through the open end of the tube, and then with sharp, forcefull blows on the end, you can knock the internal ferrule out.
Been there, done than. Haven't gotten the t-shirt yet... _________________ Spence
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Air: Refreshing when stirred up and served cool on a hot day. |
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juggler7
Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 6 Location: South west UK
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:23 am Post subject: Broken bits! |
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Thanks guys for the swift and helpful responses!
Best regards
Andy |
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knotronda Kite Builder II


Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 797 Location: Lincoln City, OR USA
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Besides soaking the broken end in the acetone, you could pour a little acetone into the open end and attack the glue from 'both' ends.
Just throwing my two cents worth in.
knot(tier)ronda 
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KiteSquid Master Kite Builder


Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 2955 Location: USA Virginia King George
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:59 am Post subject: |
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If it was epoxied in you will have to drill it out or break it into little bits.
I have used acetone on CA and the shock loading techinques with good results.
I have a can of acetone just for this purpose... I set the end of the spar in the can and leave it. check it about every 15 minutes or however long I can stand to see it on the workbench... _________________ VR/
KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
P.S. Yet another post by the Squid..... Doesent he ever shut up???
P.P.S. The wind is like the air, only pushier. |
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Stan

Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 598 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I'd use a lighter or heatgun to soften the glue and push it out with a rod. Warm it evenly until it's too hot to grip with your fingers. Won't work for CA but seems to work for polyurethane, epoxy and PSA adhesives.
Stan |
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